The data is showing that more and more people are leaving church because of negative experiences. The American Bible Society’s John Plake joins the show to emphasize the importance of making people feel more welcomed into Christianity. Later, Pastor Brent Kuhlman shares from Ephesians 4:30 and 2 Samuel 11 as he gives a warning against grieving the Holy Spirit with our actions.

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*This conversation originally took place on August 21, 2024