Security expert Elizabeth Neumann (https://elizabethneumann.org/) , author of “Kingdom of Rage (https://www.amazon.com/Kingdom-Rage-Christian-Extremism-Peace/dp/1546002057/) ,” addresses how patriotism, Christian nationalism, and even extremism can get conflated; and how graciously relating with those we disagree with can help diffuse potential violence. Carmen offers five steps to changing our culture with compassion. Faith Radio podcasts are made possible by your support. Give now: Click here (https://give.unwsp.edu/site/Donation2?df_id=3342&3342.donation=form1&utm_source=myfaithradio.com&utm_medium=shownotes&utm_campaign=frn_podcasts)