God is gracious and merciful, but he disciplines his children because of his love for us. Pastor Jonathan Parnell (http://www.jonathanparnell.com/about)  of Cities Church (https://www.citieschurch.com/)  uses Hebrews 12:3-11 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=hebrews+12%3A3-11&version=NIV) sharing how Jesus gave an example for how we can persevere through trials, and how God affirms us as his children through our suffering. Later Dr. Greg Bourgond (https://myfaithradio.com/authors/greg-bourgond/)  shares how there are four stages to salvation, discussing the first three and the importance of each one. Faith Radio podcasts are made possible by your support. Give now (https://give.unwsp.edu/site/Donation2?df_id=3342&3342.donation=form1&utm_source=myfaithradio.com&utm_medium=shownotes&utm_campaign=frn_podcasts) This conversation originally took place on November 7, 2023